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Sep 4 2010, 11:24 PM EDT by
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There is some debate as to whether the Pygocentrus genus actually does contain only three species, as there are several other contenders for membership. The first of these, Pygocentrus palometa, was first described by the ichthyologist A. Valenciennes in 1849. It is listed as occurring in the lower Rio Orinoco, Venezuela but little further information is available. Although the scientific name is still listed as valid, it is highly likely that this P. palometa is actually a synonym of Myleus schomburgkii, a member of the silver dollar family. The second species, held by many to be a valid Pygocentrus, is P. ternetzi. This issue is yet to be settled conclusively but current scientific thinking classes this fish as a yellow color form of P. nattereri. Finally, some ichthyologists believe that species most commonly sold as the red belly is in fact a species known as P. altus and that the true P. nattereri species is never exported from what is believed to be its relatively small geographic range. This theory has not found a great deal of acceptance amongst piranha enthusiasts, with most believing that P. altus is simply a junior synonym of P. nattereri. In any event, these misunderstandings highlight the need for further study of this group of fish.
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Sep 4 2010, 11:24 PM EDT
It's very difficult to understand all of the classifications of piranha, there are a lot of studies that still need to be done.
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P. Nattereri
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Pygocentrus nattereri
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Sep 4 2010, 11:20 PM EDT by
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The Pygocentrus species were originally placed within Serrasalmus, along with many other would-be piranha species that are now habituated into other genera. As one might expect, there is no definitive tank size for keeping piranha. Keeping pygos as a group will require a large tank, as the adult fish are capable of attaining 14" or more depending on the species. Realistically, a 6' x 2' x 2' (180cm x 60cm x 60cm) will be needed for a group of 6 - 8 fish. Obviously, juvenile fish can be grown on in smaller tanks but there should always be consideration of the long term accommodation plans.
Piranha and tank mates can be a very hazardous combination! As a general rule, all of the Pygocentrus species will live together, unless there are significant size differences between the fish. If some of the tank inhabitants are much smaller, then there is a very real chance they will be eaten. However, this process can also work in reverse because, if there are a number of smaller pygos in a tank and one or two large fish, the smaller fish can sometimes "gang up" on the large fish and kill it, due to the perceived threat of having the large fish in the same territory as the smaller ones.
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Sep 4 2010, 11:20 PM EDT
That's some very knowledgeable information Savageserrsalmus69, thanks for sharing that with us.
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Pygocentrus Natterei
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Aug 18 2010, 6:45 AM EDT by
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There are five genera of fish currently recognized under the broad definition of piranha species. These are all fish which fall within the taxonomic subfamily of Serrasalminae. This article is concerned with the two genera most widely recognized and sold as piranha: Serrasalmus and Pygocentrus.
The two genera themselves are relatively easy to tell apart. Pygocentrus species are the classic round-shaped, bulldog-jawed species. The Pygocentrus genus is generally held to be made up of only three recognized species; P. piraya, P. cariba (often referred to incorrectly as P. notatus) and P. nattereri. The last of these is, of course, the famous red bellied piranha and is the species most commonly seen in nature documentaries and horror films. The glaring inaccuracies and sensationalism of some documentaries can make it difficult to tell these two types of film apart, highlighting the degree to which these fascinating fish are misunderstood.
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Hello folks !
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Mar 15 2010, 6:52 PM EDT by
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Hello Tubers :)
I just joined the site and thought it would be nice to introduce myself. I'm CombiChrist, memeber on most piranha forums and moderator on the Dutch P-Fury.
My goal is to combine as good as possible, the hobby and the science. As many of you will have noticed on other sites (and maybe here), these do not always go hand in hand. Unfortunate, 'cause the way I see it we all share the same interest : piranhas !
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Mar 15 2010, 6:52 PM EDT
Good to see you on the site, we do all share the same interest in this hobby. We just need to keep it growing and knowledgeable.
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Happy Thanksgiving from PiranhaTube
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Nov 26 2009, 10:42 AM EST by
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Happy Thanksgiving
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Hello Piranha Tube!!!
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Piranha Information
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Mar 30 2009, 11:49 PM EDT by
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Hey...thanxs for the warm invite Andoni!
Nice forum here!
Cheers!!!
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Merry Christmas from PiranhaTube
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Dec 24 2008, 12:47 PM EST by
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Merry Christmas everybody, have a safe and happy New Year from all of us at PiranhaTube.
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Serrasalmus Manueli updated information page
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Nov 26 2008, 11:14 PM EST by
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I have just updated the information on the Serrasalmus Manueli
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Nov 16 2008, 8:23 PM EST by
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HELLO, ARE YOU STILL THERE, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING NEW ON YOUR WEBSITE LATELY. ALSO DO YOU HAVE ANY NEW AND EXCITING ITEMS THAT YOU WILL BE SELLING ON EBAY. I AM VERY HAPPY WITH MY RECENT PURCHASE FROM YOU, I WANT TO SEE WHAT ELSE YOU HAVE.
ANXIOUSLY AWAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Nov 16 2008, 8:23 PM EST
I have just updated the information on the Serrasalmus Manueli
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EBAY EXCITEMENT
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Oct 27 2008, 7:04 PM EDT by
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I WAS JUST ON YOUR PIRANHA WEBSITE, WHICH I JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH OF, BUT NOW I ALSO LOGGED ON TO YOUR E-BAY SITE, AND I HAVE TO SAY, THAT IS EVEN MORE INTERESTING. YOU HAVE THE BEST THINGS TO SELL. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU WILL BE SELLING IN THE FUTURE........................
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Oct 27 2008, 7:04 PM EDT
I will havew alot of stuff for sale, keep checking the site.
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Cool site
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Oct 27 2008, 7:03 PM EDT by
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This really is a great site.
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Oct 27 2008, 7:03 PM EDT
Thank you Mark, you will learn alot about piranhas here.
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new site
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Oct 1 2008, 11:09 PM EDT by
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when you starting the new site???? either need to make this one more exciting or start a new one!!! PLTH!!!!!
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Oct 1 2008, 11:09 PM EDT
I will make it very exciting, maybe a new site coming soon.
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DEAD FISH
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Sep 30 2008, 2:42 PM EDT by
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I TOO AM VERY SORRY THAT YOUR FISH DIED, I HOPE ITS NOTHING IN THE WATER!!!!
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Sep 30 2008, 2:42 PM EDT
I think there was something in the water. Thats 2 fish in 2 weeks.
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Sep 29 2008, 12:58 PM EDT by
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Watching paint dry and watching Piranha pics is just good wholesome fun.
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Sep 29 2008, 12:58 PM EDT
"Watching paint dry and watching Piranha pics is just good wholesome fun. " Thank you Furface this is good old wholesome fun.
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Serrasalmus Maculatus for sale, MI pick up only
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Sep 22 2008, 11:29 PM EDT by
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Information
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Sep 14 2008, 10:38 PM EDT by
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I will be posting information of all piranhas shortly.
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I LIKE THIS ONE
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Serrasalmus Rhombeus
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Sep 3 2008, 9:01 PM EDT by
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I REALLY LIKE THIS PIRANHA. IT HAS A GOOD COLOR
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Sep 3 2008, 9:01 PM EDT
It is one of my favorite piranhas.
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piranha
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Sep 3 2008, 9:00 PM EDT by
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I really like your photos and website.
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Sep 3 2008, 9:00 PM EDT
Thank you very much.
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THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF PIRANHA'S
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Aug 21 2008, 5:48 PM EDT by
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SO NOW BECAUSE OF YOUR EVER SO EXCITING WEBSITE, THAT I CAN'T SEEM TO GET ENOUGH OF, (ALTHOUGH IT COULD USE MORE INTERESTING INFORMATION).....I NOW HAVE THE URGE TO BUY SOME PIRANHAS OF MY OWN, AND IMAGINE THAT YOU HAVE PIRANHAS FOR SALE!!! WHAT LUCK..............CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT DETERIMES THE PRICE OF THE FISH. AND HERE I AM AGAIN ASKING YOU FOR MORE INFORMATION...I JUST CAN'T SEEM TO LEARN ENOUGH ABOUT YOUR FISH. DO YOU THINK YOU COULD SEND ME THE FISH THRU THE MAIL, AND IF SO, IT WOULD STILL BE ALIVE RIGHT???? IF NOT CAN I GET MY MONEY BACK????? GOOD TIMES!!!!!!!
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pretty cool site!!!
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Aug 20 2008, 5:04 PM EDT by
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Aug 20 2008, 5:04 PM EDT
"Piranhas are the best fish you can get, I'll post some info soon so you can learn. Have a nice day." OH...SHIVER ME TIMBERS!!! I AM JUST SO EXCITED!! HURRY AND POST SO I CAN FINALLY GET A GOOD NIGHT SLEEP!!
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